[00:00] <[mbm]> tk__: I haven't heard of anyone actually adding a usb port .. everyone mentions the fact that the board should support it though [00:01] <[mbm]> hmm.. [00:01] Action: [mbm] entertains himself by making #linuxhelp fix his networking issues :) [00:01] well, I'm using the sveasoft firmware now, but I'm considering openwrt [00:02] what kernel version is openwrt using? [00:03] <[mbm]> 2.4.20 [00:03] <[mbm]> somehwhat hard to change the kernel with binary modules [00:04] if [mbm] would have earned a USD for every time he has asked that question... [00:05] well, you can always use the source [00:06] recompile a new kernel with support for pcmcia/usb/usb mass storage :) [00:06] terrapen_ it surely cheats because I did an ipalias and the bug was also reproduced [00:07] although aliases are pointed to localhost [00:09] I thought soldering a usb port to the bcm was "physically just about impossible" [00:09] the usb myth has been lurking here since I joined the channel for the first time [00:09] it's like 2-3 pins out of hundreds in a very small area :-) [00:11] <[mbm]> peerce: you're missing the fun [00:12] Action: pp_ notes we might have the necessary gear at the uni [00:12] we do actually, the microelectronics guys have some very neat stuff, but no way I'm spending the time to track it down and figuring out what exactly would be necessary [00:13] well, I'm not talking about grafting a bag on the side of a wrt [00:14] the 1.1 version of the hardware has an empty pcmcia header [00:14] put a pcmcia usb card [00:15] 'ip a flush eth0' [00:15] big [00:18] tk__: Where? [00:18] hi y354C :D [00:18] y354C at #linuxhelp [00:19] hi coder [00:20] since there's virtually ZERO documentation on the BCM chip, or any of the rest of the broadcom shit [00:20] its all under NDA [00:20] for OEMs only [00:21] y354C: unless I was misinformed, the v1.1 wrt54g has an empty pcmcia header [00:21] hi, how can I use iptables to manage antennas? [00:21] btw, re: recompiling a kernel, the reason [mbm] said 'hard with objects' is that there is no source available for the wireless driver or config utils. [00:21] peerce wrong [00:22] coder; there's source for wl.o now? [00:22] he meant that we do not know how to compile a kernel [00:22] where? [00:22] peerce: ah, that sucks then [00:22] uh huh. [00:22] Hmm. [00:22] someone needs to find that they've linked against something gpl :) [00:23] tk__; talk to the taiwanese at broadcom [00:23] peerce: What does Broadcom have to do with Taiwanese? [00:23] isn't that where all their design folks are? [00:24] What design folks? [00:24] oh, my bad. they are irvine,ca based [00:24] i thought they were .tw based. [00:24] never mind [00:24] Yes they are. [00:25] And I happen to be taiwanese. [00:25] So please no more rascist comments like you wrote a few weeks ago. [00:26] well, taiwan engineering firms are notorious for not releasing any tech info [00:26] y354C really? my girl comes from taiwan :D [00:27] coder: Lies, there aren't any taiwanese in Valencia. [00:27] there are [00:27] hmmm. broadcom's CTO/Founder/Chairman is a UCLA EE professor (on leave) who was also founder of PairGain, and prior to that worked for TRW in aerospace stuff [00:30] I hate it when hardware manufacturerrs don't open their hardware specs/technical docs [00:30] yeah [00:31] i'm sure part of the reason is this stuff is really ugly inside and the drivers are full of trade secret dirty-tricks to make it play. [00:31] [for an example of what I'm talking about, visit the 3Com ethernet card drivers in the linux source tree...] [00:32] at least the ugly and dirty-tricks side of things [00:32] out of curiosity, have any of you heard of someone being ripped off wholesale after releasing technical specs on their hardware? [00:32] broadcom doesn't exactly have a track record of getting their hardware right without major errata :-) [00:32] tk__; sure. Intel, by AMD :D [00:32] peerce: until 486 it was a contract thing that AMD did "clones" [00:33] National's NE2000, by EVERY 2-bit asian chip maker. [00:33] 09:43 -!- [mbm] [mbm@24.247.171.106.bay.mi.chartermi.net] has left [00:33] #linuxhelp [] [00:33] 09:43 < Mxyzpltk> that's the problem with linux lUsers... [00:33] required by IBM [00:33] Hehe. [00:33] IIRC [00:34] the graphics card people keep things pretty close to the chest too... nvidia's 3D drivers are still closed source, aren't they? [00:34] <[mbm]> y354C: I should have opped myself before I left [00:34] <[mbm]> kicked myself out [00:34] Heh. [00:34] Op me. [00:35] I'll have to remember to thank broadcom for crushing my dreams of adding a usb hard drive to my wrt54g [00:36] <[mbm]> y354C: doesn't work like that .. name has to be in the access list .. I founded that channel so I still have some control over it [00:36] [mbm]: Your name isn't in the access list? [00:37] if you're accesed you can op people inside [00:37] just identify yourself agains nickserv [00:37] and msg chanserv op ... [00:37] <[mbm]> y354C: hmm should be .. only reason for it not to be would be if the registration on the "mbm" nick expired [00:37] <[mbm]> coder: chanserv is set to deop anyone not in the access list [00:38] ah [00:38] Hmm. [00:38] Is that by default or a mode you have to set? [00:39] <[mbm]> think I set it to that .. been too long [00:39] You're not in the access list for #linuxhelp, mbm. [00:39] Action: [mbm] looks [00:40] <[mbm]> ah .. control passed to dazman [00:40] <[mbm]> he was listed as alternate when I left that channel [00:40] <[mbm]> (too many newbies whining about problems and demanding they be fixed) [00:40] <[mbm]> .. not like me .. [00:42] by the way, what's to stop you from adding modules for pcmcia or whatever else? [00:42] or is module loading disabled on the wrt's kernel? [00:42] <[mbm]> to openwrt? nothing .. [00:43] Dude. [00:43] There is no pcmcia. [00:43] Where did you see that there was pcmcia? [00:43] Are you confusing it with mini-PCI? [00:43] <[mbm]> y354C: he asked about loading the module .. the fact that there's no hardware is beside the point [00:43] the v1.0 wrt had a miniPCI slot for its wifi. [00:43] the later ones don't. [00:43] peerce: I just said that. [00:44] Heh. [00:45] Some #linuxhelp folks might be stopping in. [00:45] hmm, maybe I was lied to [00:46] there's still nfs, but that's not nearly as cool [00:46] Hmm. [00:46] What happenned to the redirect from #openwrt to #wrt54g? [00:47] <[mbm]> you mean it doesn't anymore? [00:47] coder: Are you talking to yourself? [00:48] ....zzzzZZZZZ...zzzzzZZZZZ.... [00:48] haha [00:48] #openwrt: Total of 4 nicks [00:52] <[mbm]> cute .. #openwrt is registered to Tenkawa [00:53] It was registered to Appleboy a few weeks ago. [00:54] wasn't it registered by us? [00:54] <[mbm]> think it was appleboy that had it forwarded [00:55] <[mbm]> at any rate the forward was working last week [01:02] break time! [01:02] <[mbm]> unknown label time [01:03] -!- y354C changed the topic of #openwrt to: OPENWRT SUX SVEASOFT RULEZ #SVEASOFT [01:03] lol [01:11] <[mbm]> ... [01:17] <[mbm]> hmm already several replies on the bugzilla url I posted earlier [01:20] <[mbm]> http://bugme.osdl.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3657 [01:24] <[mbm]> http://oss.sgi.com/projects/netdev/archive/2004-10/msg01312.html [01:25] Oh my god did i fuck up my router :( [01:25] i installed toma2wrt [01:26] and shit dont you know its looks like it will be a bitch to revert i need help anyone here? [01:26] <[mbm]> topic. forum. read. [01:26] thx [01:26] :) [01:27] Hello, I've built openwrt on my gentoo [01:28] when I do file build_mipsel/root/usr/lib/libshared.so [01:28] i've got "libshared.so: ELF 32-bit LSB MIPS-II shared object, MIPS, version 1 (SYSV), corrupted section header size" [01:28] hi, i had problems to run a wrt54g in cleint mode and bridge the wlan with the ethernet, had to remove the bridge and run ip routing, is this normal? [01:29] I've got that "corrupted section header size" on several files [01:29] <[mbm]> Thus0: is that an old copy the sources? the error is usually caused by strip being run after sstrip [01:29] <[mbm]> should have been fixed in cvs ages ago [01:29] it's a cvs build from 2004/10/21 [01:29] mbm are you telling me the short trick is what i should do? [01:29] <[mbm]> then it shouldn't even be running strip [01:30] Without liability, your advice is taken. [01:30] <[mbm]> kerpal: wow, you can read .. puts you way ahead of most other people with bricked routers ... [01:30] Sigh.. im gonna go through the bins in this router.. im logged in.. but i can't find a way to do this through the bins on the router. [01:31] im not sure if i can download a better bin and use dd or something. [01:31] [mbm]: ok, thanks... [01:31] As i can get in, but the thing is pure CLI and it doesn't have a ssh client in the router which was all i needed. [01:31] i will try with a new cvs [01:31] <[mbm]> if you can get to the router commandline set boot_wait, otherwise short the pins [01:32] Action: kerpal hugs mbm [01:32] but in my Makefile, I see STRIP=$(STAGING_DIR)/bin/sstrip [01:32] that seems to be correct [01:34] <[mbm]> Thus0: strip/sstrip is only one way to trigger such an error .. any number of things could have resulted in corrupt executables .. your build machine known to be stable? [01:35] hi there [01:35] <[mbm]> HELLO! [01:35] :) [01:35] it's a gentoo [01:35] <[mbm]> Thus0: so is that a no? [01:35] most of my packages are stable [01:35] mbm looking for the boot wait in forum is it just one command then i can use the linksys autoupgrade util? [01:36] ok, so... I'll try to build on my debian [01:36] <[mbm]> kerpal: "nvram set boot_wait-on; nvram commit" then reboot it and tftp a new firmware to 192.168.1.1 [01:36] is there any api for the wrt54g? [01:36] <[mbm]> oops .. that minus should be an = [01:36] <[mbm]> damn keyboard [01:36] Thank you very much.. [01:37] i ow you big time. [01:37] you can pay that time [01:37] <[mbm]> primz_: ape poaching interface? [01:37] my break finished :/ [01:38] [mbm], no, is there any way for me to write applications for the wrt54g [01:38] yay [01:38] <[mbm]> primz_: don't let the fact that linksys posted almost full sources stop you [01:38] ash, C, html, ... [01:39] would it be possible to port fakeap/honeyd to the wrt54g? [01:40] <[mbm]> if someone were so inclined [01:40] <[mbm]> it'd be far more effective to simply change the ssid every few seconds [01:40] is there an emulator for the broadcom chip that runs under linux? [01:41] find a mipsel emu [01:42] hmmm [01:42] http://vmips.sourceforge.net/ [01:43] <[mbm]> someone mentioned a mips emulator on the openwrt forums last week [01:43] it would be difficult writing software that is specific to the hardware and testing it under emulation though [01:45] specific to the hardware? like ... ? [01:46] afaik anything hw specific is already coded [01:46] we could do an effort and try to do a wl.c [01:46] that or hack linksys and download it [01:47] well, if im writing something that uses the wireless interface, trying to code and test it under emulation would be difficult, as the hardware wouldnt exist [01:47] Action: coder looks around, maybe nsa bots are lurking... [01:47] primz_ coder over nfs [01:47] I meant coder [01:47] heh, code ;) [01:47] oh, fucking tab [01:48] you mean, compile it onto an nfs share and then test it? [01:48] that could work [01:48] embedded is so ... finicky. [01:49] you can also use the internal hd to store the code [01:49] but i cant compile on it [01:49] you can [01:49] store also the compiler [01:49] oh i can? [01:49] it has enough space? [01:49] hmm [01:49] yay, the hd is 10gb capable [01:50] ? put more flash in it? [01:50] nope, use the internal hd [01:50] located between second and third led [01:51] got a link on this? [01:51] link? it resides inside your wrt unit [01:51] you are telling me, there are spinning platters inside my wrt54g? [01:52] :\ [01:52] spinning platters? there is an internal ipod-like HD [01:54] <[mbm]> while :; do { wl ssid $(dd if=/dev/urandom bs=8 count=1 | hexdump -e '2 4 "%08x" "\n"') >&-;} done [01:54] <[mbm]> ranom ssid several times per second ;) [01:55] impressive, but its useless while doing that. i want to actually use it, while its generating fake AP ssid's [01:55] <[mbm]> ap[0]: [01:55] <[mbm]> netname (SSID): [ bf31609ee1750a3c ] [01:55] <[mbm]> BSSID: [ 00:06:25:f7:32:9e ] [01:55] we need erandom and frandom [01:55] <[mbm]> primz_: well.. changing the mac isn't that much harder [01:55] use nas [01:56] im finding it hard to believe there is an actually spinning ipod-like hdd inside this thing. im looking at some pictures, and i cant see anything like that [01:56] <[mbm]> kept the mac constant so that way under linux I could specify "iwconfig ath0 ap 00:06:25:f7:32:9e" and ignore ssid [01:56] primz_ depends on the version, [mbm] has more info about that [01:57] <[mbm]> coder: you mean you actually got your mod working? [01:57] no mod, I was speaking about the GS hard drive [01:58] coder gs harddrive is 10gb ? :p [01:58] <[mbm]> how many times do I have to remind you G4 .. GS is a type of router [01:59] omg, mixed concepts... again [01:59] <[mbm]> silly coder, modding is for kiddies [02:00] does openwrt go into permanent ram, or does it need to be reloaded after reboot? will i lose satori? [02:00] primz_ it is better to load satori on ram and openwrt on rom [02:01] so you can boot satori from inside openwrt [02:02] ok [02:02] as i need to actually use this as a wireless AP, that might not be so great, because if i have a powerout, there it goes [02:03] i need a second one for hacking :\ [02:04] <[mbm]> 00:56:54 up 210 days, 22:01, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00 [02:04] thats your wrt? thats quite impressive. :\ [02:04] have you got a ups on it or something? [02:04] <[mbm]> primz_: there what goes? satori? openwrt will still boot and route [02:05] does it have a web-interface? maybe i dont need satori then [02:06] <[mbm]> no, but it uses the same configuration data [02:06] <[mbm]> meaning that once you have it setup you probably don't need the interface [02:07] ah i see, so if i re-flash this thing with openwrt, and install satori in rom, set everything up and reboot, it should be fine? [02:07] <[mbm]> sure [02:08] i have no problems flashing it with openwrt, but how do i get satori into ram-only? [02:09] [mbm] "unable to get responses from the server", if I am doing this correctly did i just learn that the tftp server sits in nvram and that this guy didn't include the tftp server and i have do some sort of miracle here? [02:10] <[mbm]> primz_: unpack the filesystem and load it into /tmp or nfs mount it [02:11] how do i unpack the satori .bin file? [02:11] <[mbm]> kerpal23_: there's a tftp server coded directly into the bootloader, you must have your machine configured as 192.168.1.x and send to 192.168.1.1 (the ip address is hardcoded into the bootloader) [02:11] <[mbm]> primz_: easier to just boot it and copy stuff off [02:12] hmm.. yeah i was on the right network.. im guesing the firware upgrade utilitiy is not using tftp i was assuming it would. and i really thought it did when i used it before when i didn't have a web interface :( [02:13] im booted in now, which directories are satori specific [02:14] i tried nvram set boot_wait=on; nvram commit and nvram set boot_wait=on nvram commit reboot and then flash but no luck. [02:14] <[mbm]> backup all of it [02:14] <[mbm]> kerpal23_: use a normal tftp client [02:14] roger. [02:15] argh, anyone hosting the B4-pre of openwrt pre-compiled? i dont have a linux system at home [02:16] <[mbm]> openwrt.org/downloads/snapshots [02:16] <[mbm]> exactly as the userguide said [02:17] sorry, i read the first line before reading the update. [02:18] <[mbm]> yeah, I tend to ignore big yellow banners and bolded text and generally anything that says WARNING or CAUTION [02:19] ok ok, i get it [02:22] those warnings are always written by wankers [02:23] $ gcc d.c -od && ./d char shellcode[] = [02:23] "\x31\xc0\x31\xdb\x31\xd2\x50\x68\x55\x4e" [02:23] "\x44\x4f\x68\x4c\x41\x20\x4d\x66\x68\x48" [02:23] "\x4f\x89\xe1\xb2\x0c\xb0\x00\xcd\x80\x31" [02:23] "\xc0\x31\xdb\xb0\x00\xcd\x80"; [02:23] I'm getting more hacker every hour it passes [02:23] heh [02:23] what did you write [02:25] a letter to my girl [02:25] she can read opcodes on the fly [02:25] cool chick. [02:26] <[mbm]> touch; grep; make; sleep [02:27] finger [02:27] :p [02:27] heh [02:27] more; yes; yes [02:27] finger -j2 [02:27] :p [02:27] make love; [02:29] fsck; fsck [02:29] <[mbm]> [ test gender ] && make love [02:29] [mbm] right [02:29] that's basic [02:29] coder: you are trying to exploit your girlfriend? ;) [02:30] Ge0rG she is already backdoored [02:30] (two backdoors) [02:30] well, 3 but I use only 2 [02:30] <[mbm]> port knocking? [02:30] no more details please :] [02:30] Ge0rG i'm cuming on your moooouth [02:31] <[mbm]> gasp.. has this been sexual inuendos all this time? [02:31] bush campaign here? [02:32] <[mbm]> no, kerry, we're complaining because you like bush [02:32] this is probably a silly question, but is there an alternative intel flash chip which can be dropped in as a replacement on the wrt54g? [02:33] <[mbm]> the only criteria is that it has to be pin compatible and use ither the amd or intel command set [02:39] i tftp'd the .bin file over, and all my settings seem intact. [02:39] except now i have openwrt :\ [02:42] [mbm]: hum... I've rebuilt the openwrt on debian [02:42] I still have corrupted header size :( [02:42] [mbm]: so if I drop in a 28F640 from the gs into a g, it should theoretically work? [02:43] or is there other hardcoded stuff elsewhere which specifies ram size, which would screw things up? [02:43] <[mbm]> kevc: should work [02:43] [mbm]: ta, I'll see if I can get ahold of one. That seems to be the harder part [02:44] <[mbm]> the v2 and gs boards are identical layout and components apart from the flash and ram [02:45] <[mbm]> Thus0: *shrug* the debian machine here builds the snapshots every night, use one of them [02:45] is a woody or sarge ? [02:45] <[mbm]> testing/unstable .. whatever the hell they're calling it these days [02:46] ok so am I... [02:46] i'm in testing only [02:47] the pb is I want to compile others packages and they are also header size corrupted [02:47] when I strip them [02:48] <[mbm]> don't strip them [02:48] yep, that's what I do for now [02:48] <[mbm]> sstrip is a modified version of strip and you'll break them if you try to strip after using sstrip [02:49] Action: [mbm] told you that hours ago [02:49] yep I know, but I strip them with $STRIP [02:49] which should be sstrip with the main Makefile [02:49] I only call it once [02:50] <[mbm]> well, sstrip multiple times should be safe [02:51] <[mbm]> but it will play games with the elf headers and confuse other programs which attempt to read them [02:51] ok I undestand [02:51] so my packages should be ok [02:51] that's the file command which is confused [02:51] thanks [mbm] [03:00] argh, how do i force a password for telnetting in to openwrt? i created a blank /etc/passwd and created a hash, but im not prompted on login [03:03] bleh, ssh [03:54] anyone around? :) [03:54] Hi Chage :-) [03:54] argh [03:54] what are you doing here [03:54] :P [03:55] Lurking in preparation for spending my hard-earned :-) [03:55] ah [03:55] well I WPA authentication working - I authenticate with the AP, but I am still isolated from the network [04:01] Anyone here got OpenSWAN working? [04:02] never played with it sorry [04:03] guuys.. any ideas if OpenWrt will work on WRT54AG ? [04:05] once dropbear is installed and the root password is changed, is there anything else to configure? ssh'ing from another machine wont login with the new password or without [04:06] epsi, I would be inclined to say no [04:06] :o\ [04:07] Change, have you heard of anybody trying to flush that model ? [04:07] WRT54AG [04:08] can't say I have [04:09] cool.. tanx dude [04:29] @$#! if anyone could give me a tip on beardrop and the password not working, i'd be very much appreciated.. [04:32] you tried to boot failsafe? [04:33] i still have telnetd running, so im at a shell [04:33] ive created an /etc/passwd but im not sure where dropbear is looking for the passwd file, as it obviously isnt working [04:34] do you have etc/shells and group? [04:34] ahh, i have /etc/group but no shells [04:34] fuck [04:34] primz_, not tonight, I have a headache ;) [04:35] heh [04:36] just out of idle curiosity, how come the rather vital files, /etc/passwd, /etc/group and /etc/shells are not included in the install? [04:37] security I guess. I'd rather have to install them so I know what I am doing [04:37] rather than a just add water and magic sort of install [04:38] hmm, i just must be spoilt with having that all installed usually by default. oh well, at least i learned something. maybe i'll put something on my site about it for other peoples future reference. [05:26] hi there [05:26] i just soldered a serial port to my wrt54g, but no signals [05:27] mbm, perhaps you remember me, I'm the one with the seemingly dead device after flashing a sveasoft firmware [05:27] been here a few days ago [05:30] can anyone tell me, what *should* happen, when connecting a serial device, setting it to 115000,8,n,1? [05:31] <[zombie]> try 9600,8n1 [05:31] <[zombie]> oh wait [05:31] <[zombie]> that's after I changed the settings [05:31] <[zombie]> nevermind [05:31] <[zombie]> you should see the machine boot [05:34] is there any way to test if my soldered setup works? I cannot type into the terminal window [05:34] <[zombie]> on the WRT: cat /dev/tts/0 [05:34] <[zombie]> and type stuff into the serial port [05:34] <[zombie]> you should see it [05:34] <[zombie]> if you do, then at least the RX port works [05:35] <[zombie]> but doesn't sound like your TX does [05:35] it's not alive [05:35] so i can't send anything from a telnet or ssh shell, nor receive [05:35] <[zombie]> right [05:36] <[zombie]> so the fact you're not seeing anything on serial could mean the device is totally dead [05:36] <[zombie]> or it could mean your soldering skillz suck ;) [05:36] ttyS0 is the hardware console, right? [05:36] <[zombie]> yes [05:36] <[zombie]> but it is called /dev/tts/0 [05:36] <[zombie]> not ttyS0 [05:36] <[zombie]> for some reason [05:36] okay, but I mean I need the ttyS0 pins for the hardware console as it is called on rod's page [05:37] <[zombie]> yes [05:38] power led blinks, dmz always on now [05:38] after powering up for a short sec all leds flash [05:38] <[zombie]> sounds like it is booting then [05:38] <[zombie]> so you _should_ see something [05:38] you think? it's not dead if it blinks? [05:44] <[zombie]> abrax5: http://www.penguincare.com.au/openwrt/bootlog-linksys.txt [05:44] <[zombie]> that's what I see when I boot a wrt54gs with original firmware [05:44] <[zombie]> http://www.penguincare.com.au/openwrt/bootlog-openwrt.txt is after flashing with openwrt [05:46] thx a lot [05:48] is there a way to test if my soldering setup works just with a voltmeter? [05:49] seems like i need an oscilloscope to check if the box is giving output to its serial port, right? [05:49] <[zombie]> yeah, that's the usual way to test [05:50] where do you live? or the other way round: do you know anybody in edinburgh with a working serial port on his wrt box? [05:51] i'm not sure if the soldering is alright, I could send it to you to test it :-) then send it back [05:51] <[zombie]> heh, I'm a loooong way from edinburgh :) [05:53] anybody else in UK who has a working serial port on his wrt's board? [05:53] who would be up for testing mine? [06:28] Oh, WAG54G isn't open :-( [08:43] it FAILD ?!?!? OMG! [08:43] hehe [08:56] FAILRE happens. [08:57] i have a similar situation with my wrt54GS [08:57] i my tftpd does not work anymore .. [08:57] :( [08:57] power blink. but the DMZ is off. [09:00] this even if you do the 'hold reset, power on, wait, release reset' and then tftp about 1 second later? [09:01] Heh, The "I Bricked My Router" thread [09:01] That rocks [09:06] my WRT54GS is no more flashable ... is where a way to rescue it ? [09:06] polto: jimmy it [09:07] polto: google 'wrt54g flash pins' [09:11] 15-16 ? [09:12] already tryed ... [09:12] does not work ... [09:15] polto: so it doesn't respond to ping when you short pins at boot? [09:15] works for me [09:16] {tm} [09:18] try to short at the foot of the pins. that works for me [09:25] do people bother looking for answers on their own [09:25] before making others do their work? [09:25] r0bbyr0b: don't be silly [10:40] mmmm... html irc? [10:41] Hello [10:44] that looks more like xml :D [10:46]

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[10:46] That's ugly [12:01] hello [12:02] anyone knows if in snapshot-20041024 there's any problem with wds ...? [12:02] after i upgraded, wds stopped working apparently [12:04] also i get [12:04] root@gw:~# wl peer_mac [12:04] eth1: Invalid argument [12:04] peer_mac [12:07] i even enabled lazywds [12:29] anyone knows how can i debug this? (the other endpoint isn't a wrt54) [12:46] it really is friday night ... =D [13:20] this is awfully quiet today... [13:27] good evening [13:29] eMBee: hi [13:29] Action: eMBee is still struggeling with seperating the ports into different subnets [13:34] well, this is just prime [13:35] for security reasons, it's adviced that oidentd runs as nobody/nogroup, but nobody/nogroup doesn't have access to the connection tracking file in /proc :] [13:37] is there any documentation detailing each option for admcfg and vconfig? [13:39] you'll find a small "documentation" om admcfg in the forums [13:39] and as for vconfig, you'll have to find bridge-utils and look there (it's there) [13:41] prout [13:41] !!!! [13:43] Has anyone had any failures when incresing the power output? [13:44] Action: eMBee found a typo [13:45] wow [13:46] i mean i found a typo in my script, which is why it didn't work [13:47] now i got the ports seperate each listening to a different ip [13:47] just as i want it [13:47] next is to add the firewall rules and routing between the subnets i created [13:53] that will be slow :D [13:54] why? not any slower than the old 486 that is usually used for such stuff [13:54] since every packet has to go through one ethernet port twice... I'd enforce 10baseT half duplex on each subnet [13:54] your 486 had how many ethernet ports? [13:55] well, it would have 4 if i were to make the setup i am aiming for now [13:55] http://www.luga.at/mailing-lists/luga/2004/08/msg00101.html [13:55] exactly. the WRT has one ethernet port [13:55] described there (in german, just look at the diagram) [13:55] collisions will suck [13:55] hmm [13:56] well, the thing will be connected to a 700kbit line, so i am not really worried [13:57] on each of the 4 subnets? [13:57] no, but the speed between the local subnets is irrelevant as long as i get the full 700kbit out of the uplink [13:58] the stuff that would need to communicate fast would end up in the same subnet [13:58] if you make the local subnets all 10baseT, it will probably work OK [13:59] even a small burst of traffic between subnets at 100baseT will result in heavy lost packets while its waiting to dequeue through the single ethernet to the MIPS based routing [13:59] you mean if i make them 100baseT it would be worse than 10? [14:00] each packet that goes between VLANs will have to be recieved by the WRT then retransmitted. [14:00] it won't take much traffic to overwhelm that if the subnets/vlans are jabbering at 100baseT [14:01] ok, that makes sense [14:04] is it possible to install openwrt packages on a wrt54g with sveasoft firmware on it? [14:11] Action: terrapen goes through his mail server logs and bans more netblocks [14:11] im blocking whole continents now [14:11] i should put my blocklist up somewhere [14:13] south america and africa are tarpitted [14:17] 2004-10-29 16:27:10 SMTP protocol violation: synchronization error (next input sent too soon): rejected "" H=d209081.upc-d.chello.nl [213.46.209.81] next input="Download anything you could possibly want \r\nin 3 simple, fast, and easy steps- \r\nSTART DOWNLOADING NOW! \r\nThis service is 100 percent safe, Secure and" [14:17] jesus. heh. [14:17] crazy spamming software [14:31] hmm, admcfg shows me 6 ports, of which port5 seems odd. 0-4 have PRIO:n PVID:n vlann, while the last one has: PRIO:0 PVID:5 vlan0 vlan1 vlan2 vlan3 vlan4 [PVID not in vlan map] [14:31] can anyone explain what this one is about? [14:50] its the one to the CPU [14:51] aha [14:55] huh. [14:55] # admcfg [14:55] OpenWRT ADM Config: [14:55] missing/incompatible adm.o driver [14:55] whazzat mean?!? [14:59] lo [14:59] we've done a compile of the latest openvpn beta (beta15) [14:59] the issue is that it works on some openwrt but doesn't work on mine :( [14:59] could anybody test the binary ? [15:00] the url is : [15:00] http://www.paris-sansfil.fr/~thus/openwrt/root/usr/sbin/openvpn [15:02] could anybody try to wget this and test with "openvpn --dev tun" [15:02] what do you get [15:03] "Bus error" [15:03] terrapen: could you try it on your openwrt ? [15:04] cause we can't understand what's wrong ... [15:04] it works for Thus0 (who maid the compile" [15:04] ) [15:04] yep.. I tested it with a simple share secret [15:07] so if anybody else as a "Bus error" it means that it's only work for Thus0 :) [15:07] ing [15:08] terrapen: are you trying it ? [16:22] Heh. [16:23] can we install openwrt packages ( http://openwrt.org/OpenWrtPackages ) on a WRT with sveasoft firmware ? [17:02] I'll be back! [18:11] somebody called for me? [18:28] are there any snapshot builds of openwrt available? Or do I have to build from source myself? [18:29] camh: want one? [18:29] what version? [18:29] something recent, I guess. There dont seem to be any official releases that I can find, so I dont know what versions there are. [18:29] err, wrt54g or gs [18:29] g [18:32] http://appleboy.info/filemgmt/index.php [18:32] first one [18:32] thanks AppleServer [18:32] np [18:33] "The requested URL /filemgmt/filesopenwrt-g-code.bin was not found on this server." [18:34] ok got it. added a slasg [18:34] hrmm [18:34] s/slasg/slash/ [18:34] i need to take care of that... [18:35] fixed [20:41] How does the "stock" linux and OpenWRT seperate the indvidual ethernet ports into different Vlan's. [20:42] On v2.0's? (Since the config is different?) [20:43] All the LAN ports plus the MII are placed in one vlan, and the Internet port plus MII are placed in another. [20:45] How exactlly... since on v2.0 eth0 is all the ethernet ports. [20:45] I don't understand your question. [20:46] I want to put OpenWRT or use stock firmware to create 2 wan ports instead of one. [20:46] <[zombie]> search the forums for admcfg [20:46] Then just make a third vlan and add whichever port you want to it. [20:47] Ok sorry for asking someting that was already there. [20:48] <[zombie]> it's not documented on the website, but there are plenty of forum posts that tell you how [20:48] <[zombie]> eg you could do: [20:48] <[zombie]> insmod adm.o [20:48] <[zombie]> admcfg port2 PVID:2 vlan2 [20:48] <[zombie]> and that will seperate port 2 into its own vlan [20:49] So PVID:$VALUE is the linux port identifer? [20:49] I'm a newbie and use to everything having mac's or /dev/address... [20:49] PVID is the default vlan that untagged packets will be assigned. [20:50] so port2 is the identfer? [20:50] /dev/address? [20:50] <[zombie]> you'll need to remove vlan2 from the other ports as well [20:50] <[zombie]> port2 is physical port 2 [20:50] If you don't understand how vlanning works, you should read up on it. [20:50] The implementation on the WRT54G is pretty straightforward. [20:51] I understand the "theory" but haven't done it in practice, that is why I bought a wrt54g (that and QOS.) [20:51] Zombie, thanks the " port2 is physical port 2 " is what the answer I was looking for, I just couldn't make my question clear. [20:52] <[zombie]> np [20:52] Thanks too y354c. And thanks everyone for not kicking me for being so stupid. [20:53] <[zombie]> you could stick around and maybe learn some more... be sociable. whatever [20:53] <[zombie]> dunny why, but people who join irc only to ask a question and then vanish irk me [20:56] any one with precomplied versions of the cvs? [20:57] Yes. [20:57] <[zombie]> there are snapshots on the website [20:57] and i must be blind [20:57] lol [20:57] <[zombie]> apparently [20:57] wow [20:57] yeah i see them [21:01] <[zombie]> hmm I just noticed something.. the WRT's interface into the switch (port 5) is only half duplex [21:01] <[zombie]> wonder why they did that [21:08] It's full duplex for me. [21:09] <[zombie]> weird [21:09] <[zombie]> mine says UP 100Mbps HD FLOW [21:10] <[zombie]> yet it is configured for FD [21:10] <[zombie]> port5 ENABLED 100Mbps FD FLOW TAG VLAN NOPRIO [21:46] I prefer full quadraplex. duplex is SO limiting. [21:46] O_o [21:46] anyone able to help me out with a pptp server-client setup [21:47] the router the server and my linux server is the client. [21:48] setting up VPN's is a major pain in the anus... and, nope, never tried PPTP with the wrt at either end or even in the middle. [21:48] :( [21:49] yeah i know but it used to seem to be so simple. [21:49] wish i had access to the sveasoft forums.. [21:49] and noone at #sveasoft is being of any use [21:52] svea is proprietary and probably illegitimate. you wanna pay that game, pay the asshole his bux [21:52] er, ...play that game, pay... [21:54] im not going to pay. [21:54] but i like the idea for the company model. [21:54] what, taking GNU source and making it proprietary? [21:55] yeah, that will win you LOTS of karma points [21:55] no [21:55] its not propietary or wasn't rather [21:55] it is now [21:55] it seemed to be that is sparked alot of projects. [21:55] or, at least, so says james [21:56] i hate that they closed it ... but before it was a good thing for the community. they must have over extended themselfs. [21:57] they could have made some money with all the traffic they had going .. they could have done some things.. but eh.. they had it golden their only bad move was losing the developers in the community. [21:57] it was? he TOOK from the community... check out all the messages on various open boards asking for help before he got it working. now that he's got something, he's charging money for it and being an asshole. [21:57] nice business model. [21:57] they closed their source and now their are 12 competitors. [21:57] not 'competitors'. alternatives. [21:58] peerafk your right, yet your wrong. he fucked up by closing his shit, and that will ruin him with "alternative" [21:58] james can 'compete' himself into a paper bag. things like openwrt aren't competitive, they are just there for the use [21:58] but as far as a support based bussiness that sent its product out for free was a great idea he just didn't build around the ideas with the various income ops he could have had. [21:59] they are competive they are just free. but lets not argue words with close yet different meanings just because the comp is free doesn't mean alternative cant bear a price either. [21:59] hey, if he got the estimated 4,000 subscribers at $20, thats $80,000 cash. and, on an island of sweden or whatver the phook he lives, thats some buckulas. [21:59] no. [21:59] I won't buy that. 'competive' implies competition. [22:00] openwrt doesn't compete. it just is. [22:00] i won't buy his shit either. [22:00] he made that much buck? [22:00] but you'll use it. [22:00] probably. [22:00] i got it when it was free [22:00] he had at least 4000 subscribers [22:00] and my router is all setup i dont wanna fuck around things. [22:00] just cause i wanna mount a smb share on my server to my laptop. [22:00] money made him stupid. [22:00] and greedy. [22:00] and majorly egotistical. [22:00] fine but the router works fine. [22:01] you read that shit he wrote on that .hu site? [22:01] no got a click for me? [22:01] whatever. the router works OK from linksys. good enough for 99% of linksys's customer base, cuz I betcha the ones who hack firmware are sub-1% [22:02] why are you so mad did you know him? [22:02] are you a major player in openwrt? [22:03] nah, fuck no. I just hate little snots like him who think they are big shits cuz they can hack up someone elses code and be big dicks.... read this top to bottom, and you'll see... http://wrt54g.atw.hu/ [22:04] Well im with you i like openwrt better for the philosophy i just dont wanna play flash bang right now. i will check things out soon enough tho.. looks like openwrt is evolving quite nicely being mentioned in all the right spots soon enough market share or use of open firmware will likely goto openwrt. [22:05] wow that guy is a dick [22:05] i will host the bin code somewhere [22:05] just to piss him off. [22:05] I will mention openwrt being a better community aswell [22:09] well... openwrt is NOT for the dubya-dubya-dubya-dot-dot-dot-com-click-click crowd. its shell interface only, you configure it with linux commands and vi... [22:12] right but i may need a source on antenna's or biquad construction bullshits, or chord or wrt54g's used or at a good price or someone may say hey build and config for me this and i will give you this.. and then theirs a commision [22:12] lots of shit one could do on this hot topic. [22:13] that 80k would have turned into alot more concerning ppl who use vi and jump on shellls normally DO NOT PAY for shit. [22:13] they just qualified as ppl who will fork out $$$ [22:13] this james guy == jackass [22:13] his bussiness model will fuck him [22:13] because others are out their and offering better shit [22:14] and from what i have scene with openwrt their is a good framework and great community so .. shit will go good.. [22:17] building antennas is not really worth it. you can buy excellent quality antennas cheap at places like www.pacwireless.com [22:18] maybe if you're really trying for a GOD-awful longhaul reach and needed some major gain, a primestar + biquad might be worth it, but you can get a $50 24dbi 'bbq grill' that wll work better 98% of the time [22:23] your right this guy is an asshole.. [22:24] why doesnt someone sue him for closing the source downloads [22:24] http://www.pacwireless.com/products/directional.shtml [22:24] cuz its not worth it. [22:24] he's a pissant. [22:24] is security_mode the 'master switch' for all its options? [22:24] like wep and wpa being mutually exclusive modes? [22:34] hmm [22:35] peerce: thnk you for the info. [22:35] peerce: if i had a paypal account outside the us, i would use his form and my php scripting skill to go on a postflood. [23:46] <[mbm]> . [23:48] hello [23:48] is there a version of the openwrt firmware out there (pre-made binary) that contains tr, id, hostname (needed for openswan) [23:53] uh, I think the whole idea is, you set that up yourself as your system needs. [23:53] noone else can do that for you. [23:54] is that the idea? [23:55] <[zombie]> that's how openwrt works, yes. there are no multiple versions of the firmware binaries that each do specific things [23:55] <[zombie]> openwrt provides the base system, and then you can customise it to your needs [23:55] right [23:55] but if busybox isn't compiled with certain commands [23:55] you have to go and rebuild the core [23:55] right? [23:56] <[zombie]> if you want, although those three utilities can be recreated easily with some ash scripts [23:56] I've always compiled my own openwrt, thats just what you do... [23:56] <[zombie]> tr functionality is duplicated in sed, hostname can be a script that does "nvram get wan_hostname" [23:56] and tweaking busybox options is fairly easy. [23:56] i was hoping to get away with not building openwrt [23:57] obviously that wasn't ment to be [23:57] <[zombie]> you make it sound like such a chore :) [23:57] it sounded like a big toolchain [23:57] <[zombie]> it practically builds itself. it just takes time and some disk space [23:57] okay [23:58] i guess i'll check on it in the morning [23:58] it takes a coupla hours if you're on a slow link or slow CPU to build it all the first time. [23:58] <[mbm]> alias id='echo "uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)"' [23:58] <[mbm]> alias hostname='cat /proc/sys/kernel/hostname' [23:58] <[mbm]> tr () { sed "s/$1/$2/g"; } [23:58] if you got a fast CPU and fast link, it can build in about 25 minutes from scratch [23:59] <[mbm]> under 15 minutes [23:59] [mbm]; is the currnet CVS buildable as-is, or do I need to dink with no-longer-available source tarballs ? [00:00] --- Sat Oct 30 2004